I am thinking that IF (a big if) you are able to some how get that hole mended in the side you could possibly throw some hang on overflows on the tank so the water no longer finds it's way into the silicone again and possibly run with that for now to buy a little time for a more permanent solution is decided on. If I could afford to take the time off from work Marc I would be on a plane now to help in any way possible! Another thing to consider is that, yes silicone will not seal if an area is wet but there are other products that could possibly work in the meantime. I have used the two part epoxy we use for coral frags to seal up a steady stream before and it is still holding to this day (I promise it was nothing major or even a leak that would damage anything.) I know thats not what your looking for but it may be worth a try. Or anything else along those lines, I don't know what the active ingredients are in WaterWeld or if they are reef safe but it is also useable underwater or on wet surfaces.
I got a PM this morning reminding me how now it would be easier to get the angels out of my reef, as if I'd done this on purpose for that reason alone.
Also, they may technically get out of a warranty because of the printed piece of paper, but we'll get a chance to see their customer service in action when a situation does fall outside of the paper guidelines. Hopefully this is covered. How does your livestock look Marc?
Interesting... The black acrylic and glass definitely would have a different coefficient of expansion. http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/li...ents-d_95.html. If I had to guess, I think you are right midnight, in that the acrylic expanded and pushed the seams apart. The coef for acrylic is >> coef for glass. The thing is that if there were a brace at the top of the tank, the acrylic likely would have bowed (wrinkled?) instead of pushing out the seams. If that IS the case, I'd say marineland doesn't have any business selling this type of custom tank - this type of failure should have been predicted before it left the shop... They committed two cardinal sins here. 1) mixing materials (glass and acrylic) and 2) omitting a structural brace on top of the tank. Bummer Marc.
Marc have you called or wrote marineland just so they know what is up. Because this definately appears to be an engineering flaw that would need to be addressed at least for future tanks, mainly mine.
Here is what happened though. The tank was probably cut and put together at 60-70 degrees and that acrylic is bowing because it is at 80 degrees and plastic is more susceptible to heat expansion. the acrylic really should just be stuck to the glass not made to be part of the end.
Blennyman, you are right there is no top brace on that end. but the separation is not the front and back from the end panel, it is just the acrylic facade from the end panel...should have no structural value at all?
This is a very sad day indeed.
Am I looking at this right? Looks like there is no brace around the top by the overflow and that the tank maker was relying on the silicone to hold the seam together by itself. Maybe I'm missing something...
Well thats true, at least you know what the failure is. I'm sorry to see that you are yet again having issues with a leaking tank Marc. This definitely makes me want to steer clear of marineland tanks though to be honest. At least the custom ones.
Pictures of the area that is falling apart: http://www.reefaddicts.com/entry.php...n-for-the-leak
Damn Marc I feel sick for you right now. Maybe time to build yourself an acrylic tank? Or do you think it's repairable? Well every cloud has a silver lining, and in the past you have mentioned how you have never been fully happy with your reef (looks ok to me!). Perhaps this can be an opportunity to change what you wanted to? Good luck man, hope to still see you at MAX this weekend! All though if not well we'll all understand.
Reef keeper and air traffic controller! What is the difference All about crisis management at this point Marc, you're good at this. Just remind yourself mid-seam is better the bottom seam, although not by much. You have a chance to move live stock, that is a good thing. Hopefully, you have no shortage of local reefer's standing in your living room willing to assist right now
I know it has been said by many others on here and forums. And with me two hours away and working there's not much that can be done, but if there's anything you need help with just let us out here know. I'd be glad to help any way that I could. Sending well wishes for your livestock your way. Be calm and make the best decisions you can in the situation today. Good luck.
WOW! Marc I am so sorry to be reading this, literally my heart sank as soon as I saw the headline. I hope that you still have all the equipment from your temp setup available. Are you running a wave type setup? I have no idea if this is the issue and I have no personal experience of it happening, but I have heard stories of people getting leaks due to the water crashing into the walls over an extended period of time. Just a thought. In the meantime we all wish you and your tank well and that this to be very repairable.
Wow!!! Not good Batman. Like everyone else, I'm very sorry to hear this. Do you still have all the pieces of the previous "temporary" set up?
Marineland doesn't offer a warranty unless you use their wooden stand. This was definitely unexpected. That's Marilyn Monroe, Carl.
NO NO NO!!! NOT AGAIN! good thing you love reefing so much! who is the mermaid reflected in the overflow?
OMG I'm so sorry to hear. I was just searching through your photos 'cause I love your tank so I'm sad that it'll be taken down again. Good luck.
OMG! Seriously- you have to have the worst luck of anyone I know! Here's hoping Marineland steps up to the plate!
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