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My wife and I are new to the salt water community. We got a 55gal tank from some friends that is in desperate need of some good advise. We have two mated clown fish (that have apparently never mated) and a striped goby (not sure what type yet). It has a Whisper Power Filter 60 hang off the back filter, one Hydor Koralia fan, a heater, about 3 inches of very dirty live sand and about 15lbs of live rock. Our end goal is to have a reef tank. We have done some research into building our own filtration system for a reef but wondered what advise we could get to begin from the beginning...first in cleaning the sand. Not a lot of money to spend up front, so baby steps please.

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Updated 05-30-2010 at 01:29 PM by dlmelius

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  1. Douwant2play's Avatar
    Welcome to this wonderful and fun hobby! What do you mean dirty live sand? Algae?

    This would be my list of things to start going to a reef:

    Test Kits
    Refractometer
    More live Rock, about 25 - 30 pounds more
    Clean up crew if you don't have any. Snails & hermits - if the sand bed has algae and that is why it is "dirty" these guys can help
    change the whisper to a fuge if possible
    Also maybe another power head

    The list above would be my starting point. Do you know how long the system was up before you received it? That is what I can think of for right now, I'm sure many others will add more suggestions as well. good luck, and keep us updated!
  2. fchidsey's Avatar
    Cleaning the sand is not really a good idea if the tank was setup for over a year. Over time phosphate binds to the sand and there is not really a good way to release it. Phosphate promotes the growth of unwanted algae in the tank and will make it that much harder to keep the tank clean down the road.

    has the tank already been relocated and set up? and are there animals in the tank?
  3. melev's Avatar
    If you want to clean up the sandbed to start anew, here's the article for you: http://www.melevsreef.com/rinsing_sand.html

    Save a cup or two to seed the sandbed, and wash out the rest.
  4. fchidsey's Avatar
    melev - Today 04:15 PM
    If you want to clean up the sandbed to start anew, here's the article for you: http://www.melevsreef.com/rinsing_sand.html

    Save a cup or two to seed the sandbed, and wash out the rest.
    Or you can do that, nice article mark.
  5. dread240's Avatar
    I spy with my little eye.... the old phone cord to reach the entire house gig

    (I hope that was a really old article marc)
  6. fchidsey's Avatar
    That's funny
  7. melev's Avatar
    Yes, that article goes back to 2004.
  8. dread240's Avatar
    sorry, I couldn't resist
  9. dlmelius's Avatar
    Other than test kits (what types?) and cleaners (what are the best?). Is there any easy and inexpensive way of building a fuge? We know that this hobby is and can be very expensive but if there ways of cutting down on costs and DIY pieces to this tank I would take any advise you got.

    Thanks

    David

    Quote Originally Posted by Douwant2play
    Welcome to this wonderful and fun hobby! What do you mean dirty live sand? Algae?

    This would be my list of things to start going to a reef:

    Test Kits
    Refractometer
    More live Rock, about 25 - 30 pounds more
    Clean up crew if you don't have any. Snails & hermits - if the sand bed has algae and that is why it is "dirty" these guys can help
    change the whisper to a fuge if possible
    Also maybe another power head

    The list above would be my starting point. Do you know how long the system was up before you received it? That is what I can think of for right now, I'm sure many others will add more suggestions as well. good luck, and keep us updated!
  10. Douwant2play's Avatar
    There are many different brands of test kits, and I'm not sure what the "best" are, for a reef you will want: Nitrate, Nitrite, Phosphate, Ammonia, Calcium, Ph, Alkalinity,and possibly Magnesium (others please chime in for any other ones). As for a clean up crew I like lots of snails. I have nassarius, cerith and nerites in my tank currently. I have also had Turbo snails when I had larger tanks. Also stomatellas are great reef cleaners which mostly get in your tank as hitchhikers. here is an articles that shows how to convert an HOB filter to a fuge and you may be able to do something similar to yours: http://www.wetwebmedia.com/hagenrefugart.htm Or you could always go this route:http://www.melevsreef.com/sump.html & http://www.melevsreef.com/55g/55sump.html

    And a lighting possibilty for the HOB: http://shop.mediabaskets.com/Value-P...NGLE-LIGHT.htm
    Or if you go the bigger sump & Fuge route: http://www.melevsreef.com/fuge_bulb.html
  11. Alaska_Phil's Avatar
    One way you can save money is by buying dry base rock instead of live rock. Just leave it in the tank with the few peieces of live rock you have for a few months before adding any predators. All the bacteria and little critters will eventually spread to the new rock.