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Had a new LFS come do some maintenance

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I decided to test a new LFS that recently opened in the neighborhood, http://www.danisfish.com.br. The guys seem nice and knowledgeable, they have a good set of products for sale, and they are very close, which always helps. In fact, they're the closest LFS to my home.

So I hired them to do a one time tank maintenance, involving general cleanup of pumps, glass, scraping algae off rocks (only a small patch left), doing a partial water change and measuring water parameters. You might ask "why pay for that? you should be doing it!"... yes, I know, but I haven't been able to dedicate time to do it and a little lazy to do all the water tests and cleaning , so... I normally also learn something from these cases.

So I worked "home office" today morning, and at 11AM they were supposed to arrive. 11:20 and nothing... humm... not good... I call them and to make a long story short they were late because of an emergency at another customer but got to my apartment at 11:40.

Maintenance went well, I liked the way they executed the cleanup. Careful and complete. The return pumps were very dirty , and they cleared up a piece of my skimmer air intake which I didn't know needed periodic checking. It started to produce much more bubbles and extract more skimate after that. Just learning that I guess paid the cost of the maintenance... That was positive.

PWC was of 60L, of 250L total system, about 24%, more than I normally do. I normally change 20L at maximum.

They took a bottle of water back to the LFS to do the water tests, which is OK but I would have preferred if they had done them at my home. They also didn't send me the results by email, I had to stop by at the end of the day after work and ask, and they didn't seem very organized with my data to be honest... that was negative.

The parameters are bad, according to their measurements, which is what I expected:
  • Ca: 320ppm
  • Alk: 6dKH
  • PO4: 10ppm
  • Salinity: 1.024

Now, I was expecting them to measure more parameters, which was a little bit disappointing. Lack of NO3 and Mg was a negative point, specially Mg which is a pain to test.

Not 100% sure I trusted the measurements I took out my test kits, a few maybe too old I admit, and tested, resulting in:
  • Ca: 250 (can't be... that's too low)
  • Alk: 6.4dKH
  • PO4: 0ppm (probably not...)
  • Salinity: 1.023
  • NO3: 0ppm (probably correct, as my tank has lots and lots of denitrification and little bio load)
  • pH: 8,4
  • Mg: <850 (not sure I trust this one, but, I was expecting very low)

Ended the day adding 60ml of Red Sea Success Coral Buffer to try to raise the Alk, and I'll be considering adding other stuff to bring Ca and Mg up later. Just need to decide what products to buy to do that. I have a few leftover Mg and Ca buffers from the past, but since I never succeeded in raising Mg for long periods I'm a little weary to use them.

The LFS guys recommended Tropic Marin Bio Calcium, but I never used it so I'm not sure I believe it will be good.

In the really long term I'd like too have a Balling method setup, but that will need to wait until I get the water back into normal levels first....

Snorkeler

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  1. melev's Avatar
    Your PO4 level is concerning - was that a typo of their number of 10ppm (1.0 ppm?) vs your measurement of 0? The worst I ever had was 3.0ppm and it took a long time to get it down to 0, and a lot of product.

    Buffering up Alkalinity to 8dKH would be good. Target range is 8 - 11 dKH.
    Calcium and Magnesium are balanced right now, 3x Calcium = Magnesium, but both need to be brought up quite a bit.

    It's great to have a LFS near you, and having them do spring cleaning so you don't have to isn't a bad idea at all.
  2. snorkeler's Avatar
    Thank for the comments Melev. You're right, PO4 is 1ppm, not 10ppm. Still quite high.

    I added the Alk buffer on Thu.

    I measured Ca, Mg and Alk again. today morning, Alk looking better:
    Alk: 8 dKH
    Ca: 325ppm
    Mg: 850ppm

    So now I'm going to add some Ca supplement to start bringing Ca up, and maybe at night I'll add some Mg supplement too. I have an 'old' Seachem Aquacitro Ca supplement bottle almost full, and an 'old' Eco magnesium bottle half full. Might as well use them up before buying anything else.
  3. melev's Avatar
    It is going to take a lot of Magnesium to bring it up. If you Ca is 325 now, Mg should be 3x that number. 975ppm would be balanced. If you bring up Calcium higher, do the math to determine the target Magnesium level.
  4. snorkeler's Avatar
    while doing a 40L PWC today look what I found in my sump....

    unable to add picture from the tablet... anyway, it's a cutter blade... ... the LFS guys must have accidentally left it in the sump, for I never used one of those in the tank nor sump before...

    I guess that's enough to write them off for maintenance jobs... ... imagine if I hadn't found it... it would be leeching metals into the water ...

    too bad, I was starting to like that LFS...
  5. melev's Avatar
    Glad you spotted it. Had it had time to rust yet?
  6. snorkeler's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by melev
    Glad you spotted it. Had it had time to rust yet?
    It was in there for just about 48hs, not too much.

    Yes, it was already rusty.
  7. snorkeler's Avatar
    Thinking better, it was more like 80h in the tank...
  8. melev's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by snorkeler
    Thinking better, it was more like 80h in the tank...
    I don't know what you are referring to with this comment.
  9. snorkeler's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by melev
    I don't know what you are referring to with this comment.

    The blade, it was in the tank (well, in the sump) submerged in the water for 80h more or less. From Thursday morning to Sunday night.


    I guess I don't have to worry about iron supplements for a while LOL...
  10. melev's Avatar
    It's just a chunky piece of GFO, right? Without the G? 80 hours... got it.