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  1. dahenley's Avatar
    your right, it seems complicated, but its really not that bad.
    if you have a 3rd pump, you can Tee the output to mix the salt in the mixing tank, and the other output goes to the holding tnak. and have a tee with valve from the bottom of the holding tank that can dump in the mixing tank. but this is a 3rd pump, and you would have to pour slowly because it is a smaller pump. (unless you go with a bigger pump)

    there are plenty of options.
    you will just have to read over and over and see if you like the idea or if you would like this simpler idea with a 3rd pump.
  2. NightShade's Avatar
    Looks like a pretty complicated way to mix the salt in. . .

    A kinda low tech solution may be to just use a 5 gallon bucket and a small in sump pump and a piece of line routed into the tank. Fill the bucket about 3/4 with water and pour a bunch of salt in. Turn the pump on and drain the bucket. As long as you know how much you are wanting to mix up you should be able to do get it really close to the proper levels. Come out of the bottom of the tank into a "T" before the pump and put a valve so that you can add water to your bucket to test salinity levels and so that you are not just adding more water to the mix every time. I guess if you wanted to build an acrylic tank that is tall with an open top to sit beside the main saltwater storage tank you could use that instead of a bucket but still the same principal.

    If you wanted to use your mixing pump you would need to install a couple valves to control the flow of water between tanks which is probably what they did in the above pic but may be easier to keep it simple
  3. NightShade's Avatar
    Looks good, it does bite that you had to find the ceiling problems after your walls were already built but at least you caught it now and are getting it fixed. Could be a lot worse and totally let loose and cause a collapse.

    Your shim job should work fine for the built wall if everything is nailed together good. Maybe get a couple 6 inch drywall screws for a little extra holding power.
  4. marks69's Avatar
    make sure you secure those wires around 10" from the boxes. and make sure nothing can touch metal. you could also try to get a diagonal 2x4 in from the top of the sagging trusses to the bottom of the double to help take some weight.
    gl
    mark
  5. dahenley's Avatar
    also, does your holding tank smell like new plastic, or Fresh "De Los Vodka" !!!! (Yum!!)
  6. dahenley's Avatar
    the output goes to the top of your tank. (storage)
    the input has a Tee. with a valve on both sides. one comes straight from the bottom of the mixing tank. the other comes from the bottom of the Storage tank
    there is a Tee on the Storage tank with a valve to regulate the flow into the salt mixing tank.

    you open the exhaust valve to the pump.
    Close the intake valve to the Mixing tank
    Open the intake valve to the pump and bottom of the storage tank.
    turn pump on. (this just creates a closed loop.)

    now, open the valve to goes from the storage tank to the Mixing tank. (crack it open.)
    now, open the valve to the intake of the mixing pump. (valve connecting the pump to the salt mixing tank)
    if you have the water entering the mixing tank equal to the water getting sucked to the pump, the open the salt and pour!

    (i would do the regulating of the flow with the pump intake valve connected to the holding tank) this will allow more suction going to the salt mixing tank and vice versa)

    let it mix and make sure there is no salt in the mixing tank, and close the two valves (the water going to the mixing tank, and then the intake going to the pump from the mixing tank. )
    (if you put a 90 on the suction side, then there will be very little water left in the mixing tank. (less to drain or let get stagnate unless you put a drain valve or bulkhead, but then your wasting a few gallons))

    let the pump run for a little while with the intake and exhaust just running on the holding tank and your done!

    i hope i didn't complicate that too much for you.
  7. melev's Avatar
    It's on the list of sumps to build. No worries.
  8. melev's Avatar
    I remember that, actually. How it works has me a little confused though. Think we can figure it out?

  9. dahenley's Avatar
    if you go to http://glassreef.com/review_swabbie.php, he wrote a review on his.
    you say that your skimmer doesnt work as good when its freshly clean. this has to do with the Freshwater and the extensive scrubbing. with the Swabbie, it uses your saltwater, and it doesnt scrub as much as it wipes away. (the debris is pumped in the cup by the foam) and the wiping action cleans, but not over cleans. (its explained in detail more on Glass's site.)
  10. dahenley's Avatar
    Marc, i know you remember the St. Jude's Reef tank build with Spazz? In post# 49, it shows a Salt Mixing station. Its a Acrylic Box that's attached to the recirculate pump for the Salt Water holding tank.
    http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...7&pp=25&page=2

    You will need one of these to prevent you from Climbing up a latter to make salt water. (otherwise you will just procrastinate about climbing to dump salt to make water.....)

    Have you though about doing something like this to Aid in your ease? you would only need some excess Acrylic (you might have some) and some extra plumbing and Valves.

    What do you think? maybe??
  11. Jaxom's Avatar
    Marc can't wait to see the one you are building for me, waiting ........... , patiently.
  12. gditz44's Avatar
    Melev, that thing is awesome...very clean and nice layout, great job.
  13. Jnarowe's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by Joker3090
    Yeah baby!
  14. Joker3090's Avatar
    Quote Originally Posted by NightShade
    I actually am signed up as a shipper with Uship, and watch for stuff coming out of Oklahoma City that I can have a little fun with. I drive long distances a lot of times. Drove straight through from Lawton to Las Vegas earlier this year and drove from Lawton to Austin and back to pick up a friends daughter and her stuff as well as load up a couple vehicles last year. Did that in less than 24 hours, LOL. My landlord at the time was stunned and bet I couldn't do it/make it. . . swore I would have to stop and sleep.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnRwQjTYfGI
  15. mledford's Avatar
    Yep, seriously, every 3 months... I've never had a problem. When I clean the inside of my skimmer (the neck) it does not work as efficient as before. But within 3- 5 days, it's back to skimming as before. I use a collection device to catch all my skimmate and dump that once a week. The other thing, I never shut my skimmer off. It runs 24/7... I can say that week one after I clean, my collection device is not as full as when I dump it on week two. Maybe it's my skimmer design.
  16. NightShade's Avatar
    I actually am signed up as a shipper with Uship, and watch for stuff coming out of Oklahoma City that I can have a little fun with. I drive long distances a lot of times. Drove straight through from Lawton to Las Vegas earlier this year and drove from Lawton to Austin and back to pick up a friends daughter and her stuff as well as load up a couple vehicles last year. Did that in less than 24 hours, LOL. My landlord at the time was stunned and bet I couldn't do it/make it. . . swore I would have to stop and sleep.
  17. melev's Avatar
    Thanks for the tip. I've also been told about http://www.freightquote.com
  18. melev's Avatar
    Wow - 3 months?! No way. I've been advocating cleaning the skimmer cup daily for many years now. As the neck slimes up, performance drops off notably. There's been skimmer and even skimmate testing over the past couple of years. How much you really extract is debated often.

    Bottom line for me is to extract what I can and get it away from my system as soon as possible to avoid the risk of reintroducing it. I've never used an auto collection device before, but with the new tank I may do so, although that's up in the air.

    Deltec has had a cleaning head for their skimmers for years, as are the giant RK2 skimmers public aquariums use. Not only do they have a cleaning head, but they have a wash down device set on a timer. I've been scraping the skimmate away daily with a credit card or a tiny squeegee all year long, and to have a gizmo do it for me is what I prefer. I will be sure to post some video and share my results over time.
  19. mledford's Avatar
    Awesome, thanks for the video NS...

    I'm not convinced... That skimmer in the video is probably running in vinegar water. I like the concept, and think it's cool. But put that device in a heavy bio load system and I think (i could be wrong) the performance would be reduced. Maybe not noticeable, who knows... Marc will soon enough. I'm not busting on the product, just challenging it's worth I guess...

    What I do know, is my skimmer works better when I have skimmate junk built up on the inside wall. I clean my skimmer once every 3 months or so... On a weekly basis I clean the cup. After I clean the skimmer, it takes takes a few days before it's really at top performance.
  20. NightShade's Avatar


    The skimmer continues to operate as normal but the swabbie runs and squeegees the neck clean. No added water or anything.